User:Nemo bis/Personal notes

From Wikimania 2010 • Gdańsk, Poland • July 9-11, 2010
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  • J. Kulesza, Jus Internet (Slideshare)
    • "Be conservative in what you do, be liberal in what you accept".
    • Jus gentium in the Roman Empire.
    • What to do in practice?
    • Forget copyright protection because it's not working, find a common ground.
  • Feudalism
    • Exchange of power, delegating power
    • source of law: Church?
    • constitutional monarch?
    • solution: mandarins=admins (judges, bureaucrats), applying the law, and no leadership
    • Ironholds (Oliver Keyes): house of commons; but they're not lawmakers
    • bottom-up, not top-down
  • Delphine
    • WMF bylaws mentionned contributing members (donators); Greenpeace Germany fake members with no influence whatsoever; WM-AR supporting members [also WM-IT]
    • should chapters be democratic? different laws on charity status, staff etc.: no universal solutions
    • western leadership, colonialism??
  • Mayo Fuster Morell
    • black box vs. Netenabler
    • governance models
      • Assembly: large percentage of failures; universities quite netenabler (open access) but closed (rigid rules); corporations biggest communities
      • wikihow/Flickr are not promoted by members in other countries; internationalisation connected to profitability
    • 2001 was a good year to start Wikipedia because it got attention (participation is concentrated in few places)
  • Community books
    • Wikipress failed (the first with Wikipedia + de.wiki CD unsuccessful, the second better), Alphascript etc. managed to create some workflow, and mabe that's not our work. (Mathias Schindler)
      • postcards for feedback to the publisher (didn't know what they did with that)
    • They're fixing the Proofread problem on Wikisource, but there is not pdf generation.
    • On Wikipedia the pdf generation is optimized for speed; the optimised for good layout takes hours for each book and the pdf is much bigger.
    • Links to Amazon etc. to get some money?
    • Issuer? Create a brand (collana); autori vari? The book market is changing, Amazon would accept thousands of e-books and it's more flexible.
    • Too project-centric and manual? On en.wiki WikiProjects are quite active.
  • Chapters: allow, invite, encourage
    • Chapters: local Wikimedia presence, reliable organization, legal entity to facilitate partnerships, press and outreach
    • TEDx
    • Red Hat
    • Membership as a barrier to participation and discrimination of community members? Very different ideas about that (Erik, Kim vs. Arne, Delphine, Brianna). The membership association can't be the solution for every country.
    • "We have too few members to do anything"
  • ru.wiki
    • Two years behind en,de.wiki, still growing (in number of active and very active users)
    • Lots of conflict from users from different countries and histories
    • ArbCom: post-decision publishing of private discussion logs
    • Azerbaijan cabal: special mediators and 1RR
    • GSB cabal with external forum hijacked ArbCom, then sockpuppets blocked and consensus-driven (not voting) method introduced
    • Too few admins; summing up users and bot deletion of articles (simple cases)
    • Friendly incubator for new articles by newbies (700 articles and some common problems identified); feedback system; wikificator by w:ru:user:Ctac and Alex Smotrov, w:ru:Википедия:Викификатор.
  • Ortega
    • de.wiki; drop of IP edits in 2007-6 due to a Javascript to force preview to IP (removed in 2008), noticeable decrease after FR and terrible drop when they made edit summary mandatory.
  • Howie Fung, Why do Editors Leave Wikipedia? A Survey of Casual Contributors
    • Barnstars etc. and other people improving your contribution are the best encouragements
    • 10+ edits/month contributors leave for unpleasant environment twice often than other contributors
    • More transparency would help (notify users of what you do)
    • They're going to do some similar research for very active users and admins too
    • Self-selective survey, only people who like us responded? Howie: positive and negative comments are usually balanced in such self-selective surveys.
    • Concept of leaving: maybe you're just active in some different aspect than editing, or you've discovered some other project.
  • Erik Zachte
    • ru.wiki exploding, fi.wiki a drop in registered edits, nap only bots
    • FR doesn't reduce vandalism nor contribution
    • Almost no reverts on ja.wiki!
    • Statistics on time before reverts still to come. Evident seasonal differences in amount of reverts (but what about time before revert?).
    • The statistics doesn't distinguish semi-automated bots nor bots run with unflagged accounts.
    • Does FR change community roles and structure? -> Let's study yourself the statistics which will be made available regularly.
  • Capitoli ispanici
    • In Argentina hanno tutta una serie di idee, ma dopo Wikimania c'è stato un forte calo della partecipazione, che è molto variabile: le persone sono impegnate anche nei progetti e non partecipano alle discussioni organizzative, ma si risvegliano all'improvviso quando ci sono proposte concrete di cose da fare.
    • L'Uruguay è piccolo e ben connesso a internet e ci sono 160 wikimediani che vogliono aiutare. Diversi progetti sulle OER.
    • In Cile hanno più problemi di spostamento e non sono moltissimi ma hanno contatti col ministero dell'economia e le biblioteche.
    • Il Brasile ha il problema di essere molto grande e con forti disparità economiche.
    • Ecc.
    • Una lista per condividere esperienze ma anche sapere che non si è soli, si hanno tutti gli stessi problemi (soci inesistenti, diettivi fantasma ecc.). Aperta anche a WMI. Una wiki in spagnolo e portoghese.
    • Il problema spesso è che il direttivo non ha idee da proporre ai soci, e anche per questo è utile condividere le idee, che poi gli altri capitoli possono proporre ai propri soci.
    • Sarebbe buona cosa produrre un Wikimedium "ispanico" tutti insieme, l'ha fatto anche WM-CZ dopo WM-DE. Molto importante dire quello che si sta facendo e condividere le proprie esperienze senza aspettare di aver prodotto documenti supercompleti e perfetti, che alla fine non arrivano mai.
    • La WMF sembra disponibile ad aiutare anche finanziariamente.
  • Jimbo: smaller wikipedias
    • Technical problems
    • Competitions: Google for swahili (50 participants, 20 winners, 10 still contributing); but we have to teach them how to write an article, what we need
    • Promotion; support chapters creation
    • Community of larger projects should provide advice and help (templates and so on); programmer please volunteer to solve some problems
    • Local servers to facilitate connection?
  • eekim, strategy
    • Welcome and gratficate contributors.
    • Go to the strategy wiki and do something -> strategic action.
    • Not only smaller Wikipedias but small projects: they're all important. The version showed by Sue was not the updated one (?), which says all Wikimedia projects.
  • Wikiexpedition
    • WM-PL paid trips by members and non-members [how many of them are actually used?]
    • 5000 photos, 1 €/photo.
  • de.wiki mentorenprogramm
    • We need something to increase new users
    • Real-life contact is often need (phone calls)
    • Lots of jusers asks for help and don't respond to help offers
    • en.wiki has probably failed
    • According to Jimbo newbess is not a good misure for newbieness
  • Japanese wikimedians
    • ja.wiki users care only about editing mainspace, not governance or tech; outreach began in 2009 (previously only by outside people), but WP is well considered in japan, academics are interested and there is no contact so there may be many information missing
    • Anonimity is a Japanese net standard
    • No sources, summarizing wiki discussions 2ch.com (??)